From naftali@harmonic.co.il Sun Jul 6 00:56:49 1997 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] [nil "Sun" " 6" "July" "1997" "10:50:08" "+0300" "Naftali Ramati" "naftali@harmonic.co.il" nil "300" "Re: using telnet under NT emacs" "^From:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from sun.harmonic.co.il (sun.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.3]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.5+CS/7.2ju) with ESMTP id AAA17872 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 00:56:41 -0700 Received: from naftali.harmonic.co.il (modem2.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.7]) by sun.harmonic.co.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19065; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 10:53:24 +0200 (GMT+0200) Message-Id: <199707060853.KAA19065@sun.harmonic.co.il> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC89FA.5F0C4440" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 From: "Naftali Ramati" To: Cc: "Geoff Voelker" Subject: Re: using telnet under NT emacs Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 10:50:08 +0300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC89FA.5F0C4440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking at the main() in file telnet.cpp, there is a check for valid = 'host' parameter at the start. This check can easily removed, yet at line 103 of that file, it = automatically try to connect according to that parameter. Instead of using telConnect at that point (line 103) there should be a = code that waits for open... command from the user, then call = telProcessParameters and continue without changes. I'm sorry I can't try that, I had very unpleasant experience installing = Borland C++ V5.0 last time on my computer ( just to deal with this = telnet ), when installed it took about 200MB, and when uninstalled it = takes off only about 150MB, than again, the the uninstall program = crashed. ( It had some more of these 'features') I didn't try to convert it into Visual C++, and I don't have the time = currently. I'm using the program mostly by 'my-telnet' : (only need to change your = domain address in the following routine) (defun my-telnet() "invokes telnet in separate comint buffer" (interactive) (let ((ip-addr-end 72)) (setq ip-addr-end (read-string "What is the last num of the = ip-address ? ")) (make-telnet ip-addr-end) )) (defun make-telnet ( ip-addr-end ) "Creates or Connects to telnet process" (interactive) (make-comint (concat "telnet-" ip-addr-end) "telnet" nil (concat "192\.115\.142\." ip-addr-end)) (switch-to-buffer (concat "*telnet-" ip-addr-end "*")) (shell-mode) (abbrev-mode 1) (insert " ") (comint-send-input) ) You can also try to work in 'make-telnet' in (telnet-mode) rather = (shell-mode) Hope that helps,=20 Naftali. ---- From: Geoff Voelker To: naftali@harmonic.co.il Cc: Chris McMahan Date: Saturday, July 05, 1997 1:36 AM Subject: Fwd: using telnet under NT emacs Naftali, Would it be hard to change telnet so that it doesn't need to be started with a host name? -geoff ------- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) ------- From: Chris McMahan Sender: owner-ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu To: ntemacs-users@cs.washington.edu Subject: using telnet under NT emacs Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:38:55 -0700 (PDT) I went the the FAQ and downloaded the console Telnet application http://www.cs.washington.edu:/homes/voelker/ntemacs/contrib/telnet.zip placed the .exe file in my emacs/bin directory, and placed the following line in my .emacs: ;;;; set up the telnet program (setq telnet-program "d:/emacs/bin/telnet.exe") I can use the telnet from within a shell by typing telnet , but I cannot get telnet mode to work. I'm getting the error: > writing to process: invalid argument, telnet-silicon (silicon is the hostname). I've gone to the telnet.el and (using my LIMITED lisp knowledge) figured out that the lisp launches the telnet program then executes an open command. The problem is that this telnet app will not start without a host name specified on the command line. If one just types telnet, this error appears: > [4:37pm]g:/Mail> telnet > Usage: (null) > > Switches: Anybody have this working? Is there an inherent advantage to using telnet mode rather than just telnetting from the shell mode? Any help would be most appreciated! Thanks! Chris McMahan - -- ,,, (0 0) +--------oOO----(_)---------------+ | Chris McMahan | | cmcmahan@teknowledge.com | | Teknowledge Corporation | | http://www.teknowledge.com | | (415) 424-0500 x488 | +----------------------oOO--------+ 42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot. ------- end -------=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01BC89FA.5F0C4440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Looking at the main() in file telnet.cpp, there is a check for valid = 'host'=20 parameter at the start.

This check can easily removed, yet at line 103 of that file, it=20 automatically try to connect according to that parameter.

Instead of using telConnect at that point (line 103) there should be = a code=20 that waits for open... command from the user, then call = telProcessParameters and=20 continue without changes.

I'm sorry I can't try that, I had very unpleasant experience = installing=20 Borland C++ V5.0 last time on my computer ( just to deal with this = telnet ),=20 when installed it took about 200MB, and when uninstalled it takes off = only about=20 150MB, than again, the the uninstall program crashed. ( It had some more = of=20 these 'features')

I didn't try to convert it into Visual C++, and I don't have the time = currently.

I'm using the program mostly by 'my-telnet' : (only need to change = your=20 domain address in the following routine)


(defun my-telnet()
"invokes telnet in separate comint buffer"
(interactive)
(let ((ip-addr-end 72))
(setq ip-addr-end (read-string "What is the last num of the = ip-address=20 ? "))
(make-telnet ip-addr-end)
))
 
(defun make-telnet ( ip-addr-end )
"Creates or Connects to telnet process"
(interactive)
(make-comint (concat "telnet-" ip-addr-end) = "telnet"=20 nil
(concat "192\.115\.142\." ip-addr-end))
(switch-to-buffer (concat "*telnet-" ip-addr-end = "*"))
(shell-mode)
(abbrev-mode 1)
(insert "
")
(comint-send-input)
)
 
You can also try to work in 'make-telnet' in (telnet-mode) rather = (shell-mode)

Hope that helps,=20

Naftali.

----
From: Geoff Voelker <voelker@cs.washington.edu>
To: naftali@harmonic.co.il
Cc: Chris McMahan <cmcmahan@Teknowledge.COM>
Date: Saturday, July 05, 1997 1:36 AM
Subject: Fwd: using telnet under NT emacs

Naftali,

Would it be hard to change telnet so that it doesn't need to be
started with a host name?

-geoff

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From: Chris McMahan <cmcmahan@Teknowledge.COM>=
Sender: owner-ntemacs-users= @cs.washington.edu
To: ntemacs-users@cs.washingt= on.edu
Subject: using telnet under NT emacs
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:38:55 -0700 (PDT)

I went the the FAQ and downloaded the console Telnet application

http://www.cs.washington.edu:/homes/voelker/ntemacs/contrib/telnet= .zip

placed the .exe file in my emacs/bin directory, and placed the
following line in my .emacs:

;;;; set up the telnet program
(setq telnet-program "d:/emacs/bin/telnet.exe")


I can use the telnet from within a shell by typing telnet = <hostname>,
but I cannot get telnet mode to work. I'm getting the error:

> writing to process: invalid argument, telnet-silicon
(silicon is the hostname).

I've gone to the telnet.el and (using my LIMITED lisp knowledge)
figured out that the lisp launches the telnet program then executes = an
open <hostname> command.

The problem is that this telnet app will not start without a host = name
specified on the command line. If one just types telnet, this error
appears:

> [4:37pm]g:/Mail> telnet
> Usage: (null) <switches> <parameters>
>
> Switches:

Anybody have this working? Is there an inherent advantage to using
telnet mode rather than just telnetting from the shell mode?

Any help would be most appreciated!

Thanks!
Chris McMahan
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